What makes a Nazi a neo-Nazi? 
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sharwils
Elgin, MN
Posted on 10/28/2009 at 3:06:58 PM
I think your 4 corners idea is greatm, but what about us, who live outside the city, but spend a great deal of time there? Rochester was my home, from the time of my birth in 1939 until 1961, when I remarried and moved 10 miles north, near Potsdam. I still consider myself to be a Rochesterite, and shall until the day I die. Would love it if you could include the Olmsted County group as a whole, sometimes. Sharon Wilsie Schultz
wrm1701
Rochester, MN
newameric
a
Rochester, MN
Posted on 10/28/2009 at 8:01:24 PM
It’s still “ILLEGAL immigration”.
No you don’t print the “Ugly” truth. You print political correct garbage and you don’t care what the people think.
Most commentors have been against ILLEGAL immigration. Reading your article(s) one would think that most people are consumed by what people think of the Holocaust rather than the actual issue - ILLEGAL immigration.
The Pro-ILLEGAL immigration party was most definetely represented by a group. They were holding up LaRaza signs, but the PB chose to ignore this racist group and focus only on the racism of the four National Socialist.
Should the PB give attention to this story? Of course! Crimes were committed. I know the PB often ignores or covers up significant crime in the community, but your job is to report - not interpret or filter.
Finally, if you care so much about what the people think then let us comment on crime articles.
Othelmo__
Rochester, MN
Posted on 10/28/2009 at 9:30:10 PM
The P-B practices agenda journalism when it comes to illegal, yes ILLEGAL,immigration. Illegals can do not wrong and are always victims, never lawbreakers. Opponents of illegal immigration are always painted as radicals, insensitive, cruel and inhumane Nazis/neo-Nazis.
mendeleev
o41o6
rochester, MN
Posted on 10/29/2009 at 12:35:17 AM
Good grief, Jay. Take a giant step back.
You have fully lost all sense of objectivity.
Illegal immigration is the hot button topic.
jzee
rochester, MN
Posted on 10/29/2009 at 5:44:42 AM
“P-B will cover the news, even when it’s ugly ...”
I’ll volunteer my services as an overall editor. No charge, no perks.
Here’s a sample of my work:
Your headline:“P-B will cover the news, even when it’s ugly”
jzee’s headline “P-b will cover some of the ugly news”
I do not blame P-B for avoiding the really ugly stuff. It’s understandable that you can only print what the readers, advertisers and owners of the paper will tolerate.
For instance, its’ been over a week and I could only find 1 article about the Nozette spy scandal. You’d think this would be a hot story.
Another big deal is a story in it’s 3rd day, that of the resignation of the former marine, and State Department official, Matthew Hoh, in protest over the war in Afghanistan. Not a peep that I could find. This is a significant story.
Another neglected big deal is the story of the black market organ peddlers involving both civic and religious ‘authorities” and major cash. That sure got buried in a hurry.
Whattabout the Pentagon report highlighting the cost of gasoline in Afghanistan for U.S. forces?? You’d think a cost of $400.00 per gallon would get people’s attention if not disgust. If this was reported, I like to know where.
122464
rochester, mn
Posted on 10/29/2009 at 11:28:27 AM
My concern was not so much the story but the fact that the PB went ahead and listed it in the Community Calendar section of the paper. Mr Furst you ask what’s the problem? The problem, as I see it, is they are, in your own words
”...an extreme, white supremacist organization inspired by Hitler’s Nazi Party. The Austin man involved in organizing the rally says, among other things, that “Hitler was a great man” and was unaware of the Holocaust.”
Should the PB provide free advertising for them simply because they say it is a “community event?” By your doing so, in my view anyway, it cheapens the integrity of your other wise great paper. Poor choice, poor judgment.
prohibiti
on_harms
Oronoco, MN
Posted on 10/29/2009 at 3:11:37 PM
Sorry jay you said “issues of all kinds “
and you know that is not true.
Why not an article on the health benefits of cannabis. or talk about the recent study showing that cannabis does not cause cancer when smoking it and helps prevent if smoking both tobacco and cannabis.
No you don’t and I am not sure why they are issues that affect us everyday.
So please your generalizations are not true, like the one where you said you inform people when you put there personal emails on the papers site.
Come on trying to change your image or something or just trying to create a psuedo (sic) image?
Othelmo__
Rochester, MN
Posted on 10/29/2009 at 10:16:54 PM
“which lacked some precision.”
I wish I had a penny for every time Mr. Furst minimized a glaring mistake, deliberate omission or shoddy report out of the P-B. It is always followed by a promise to do better, which never happens. Until the next “mea culpa,” that is.
jzee
rochester, MN
Posted on 10/30/2009 at 6:50:11 AM
“How much media attention to a tiny group of people with a radical, racist, deliberately provocative agenda is too much?”
It’s safe to kick around tiny toothless groups labelled for shock value with terms like, “Nazi” “radical,” and “hate proup.”
However, how long would the P-B stay in business if it harped on the big criminals and real terrorists?
I can understand your avoidance of real issues but it’s nauseating to read your saccharine justification for it.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it turned out the “neo-Nazi demonstration” was staged for the attention it’d generate.
For a few bucks you could probably get a handful of people to dress up like Joe Stalin and the neo commies and have a “demonstration,” too, no?
Oh, wait where’s the shock value in that?
Trainman
around, mn
Posted on 10/30/2009 at 9:09:33 AM
P-B will cover the news, even when it’s ugly
What a joke. That’s why we can’t comment on certain articles and have our posts pulled from time to time. You can’t stand hearing the ugly truth.
jzee
rochester, MN
Posted on 10/30/2009 at 10:07:04 AM
Jay, how would you rate yourself on covering this news?
The committee on June 9 [2009]authorized issuance of subpoenas to the Justice Department, the National Security Agency and the FBI for “certain intercepted communications” regarding Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.). As was reported earlier this year, Harman was heard in a 2005 conversation agreeing to an Israeli operative’s request to try to obtain leniency for two pro-Israel lobbyists in exchange for the agent’s help in lobbying House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) to name her chairman of the intelligence committee. The department, a former U.S. official said, declined to respond to the subpoena.
Oh, the allegations are 4 years old but there’s no news about it....at least none that would push a few “hot” buttons.
Pirate77
Rochester, MN
Posted on 10/30/2009 at 10:55:46 AM
Hey, anyone see the report that the White House is bragging about saving/creating 650,000 jobs for $150 billion? That means each one of those jobs cost about $240,000 which is more than 4 times the median salary in this country. Obama’s failure continues!
http://money.cnn.com/2009/10/30/news/economy/Stimulus_jobs_created/index.htm?postversion=2009103007
prohibiti
on_harms
Oronoco, MN
Posted on 10/30/2009 at 12:38:09 PM
Or how about the article about how much the clunkers cost each at 24,000 for teh government to process.
Hey jay that affects us and puts a perspective on the whole program.
irishman
Rochester, Mn
Posted on 10/30/2009 at 12:46:25 PM
prohibition_harms: Just a comment on your post. The $24,000 was a made up, poorly evaluated number and I am not sure what axe Edmunds had to grind on this one. I was not a fan of the clunkers program but the Edmunds article was badly researched and poorly stated.
While I’m here I want to throw my 2 cents in. Cannot pile on the PB in general nor Jay in particular. A local paper wanting to reach the broadest audience cannot always run those stories some of you seem to require.
If the purpose is to make one laugh, cry, or scream, at least for me the PB succeeds.
aghast
jefferson, mn
Posted on 10/30/2009 at 12:53:32 PM
The bottom line is the bottom line.
The “purpose” is to generate ad revenue in hopes of turning a profit.
At least he could be honest about it instead of trying to put lipstick on a pig. May as well put sugar in diesel fuel and call it iced tea.
Acted-Stu
pidly
Frontier, US
Posted on 10/30/2009 at 6:22:27 PM
In the famous words of Joe Wilson - You Lie. BHAAAAA HAAAAA. If you ever come close to some of your promises I’ll think about subscribing again.
apollo13
rochester, mn
Posted on 10/30/2009 at 6:31:34 PM
If you want to know whats going on in the country and the world; go to the Drudgereport.com.
anonymous
Rochester, MN
Posted on 10/30/2009 at 7:21:06 PM
with due respect Jay (and I think you’re about the most underappreciated person I know of), I’ve heard of MANY gang attacks and brawls in roch, including one of approx. 20 people beating one person last sat. night at the Kwik Trip on 37th. police responded, this should have been news. these rarely appear anywhere in the paper.
i think you’re on track here in your article, and what you work very hard to do, but the idea that you report the “ugly” news, I’d take some issue with.
thank you very much for providing these entertaining forums.
aghast
jefferson, mn
Posted on 10/30/2009 at 7:31:13 PM
P-B is a good “hometown” type paper, and that may be it’s purpose. That’s OK, but don’t try to spin it as something it’s not.
You are what you are and you’re only kidding yourself if you think you even scratch the surface of the “real” stuff.
jzee
rochester, MN
Posted on 10/31/2009 at 6:46:32 AM
I propose a name change to “The Quixote Bulletin” since you seem to feel so proud and heroic for squashing tiny bugs.
