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Lantern
rochester, mn
Posted on 11/5/2009 at 12:22:16 PM
This is a different world, Paul, and throwing more money at the economy is no longer a recipe for a successful outcome. We don’t even know exactly how much the stimulus program has really helped Main Street; although Wall Street sees opportunity to make gobs of money again. Perhaps the global population is just too large, perhaps the economy of capitalism is just to old, and perhaps the technilogical revolution is making more jobs obsolete; ergo, more people are going to remain unemployed longer than in the past. It’s about time that we tempered our expectations when it comes to economic growth. Maybe we had better get used to living a more simple life with less possessions. There are plenty of examples not only in the US but in many foreign nations where life is slower, people are healthier, and values are not tied to the almight dollar/euro/etc. But knowing the US, we will drown the economy in dollars until it resembles our concept of what is good and right. Who knows. Maybe this time around the global economy is too intertwined and we will have to create a new paradigm of business activity in order to preserve our way of life; whatever that might turn out to be.
puppygog
rochester, mn
Posted on 11/5/2009 at 6:11:50 PM
I would think this article was a joke if I hadn’t read his stuff before. We need to spend more? Has he ever looked at our deficit?
fasthrms
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/5/2009 at 11:11:20 PM
The newly elected blue dog fence sitting democrats will most likely loose their seats in the next election. People generally vote with their wallets. Voters will see unemployment lingering at the 10% level and vote for the challenger.
dflash
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 9:32:08 AM
Krugman’s “intellectual views” are shaped by a career at Yale, Princeton,as a government “consultant” and at the New York Times. He has never worked in the private sector.
He received his Nobel prize from the same “box of Socialist Crackerjacks” that produced President Obama’s Nobel.
193084
small mn town, mn
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 10:41:25 AM
I didn’t realize that Paul
does comedy
jeremy_hi
mli
Stewartville, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 9:26:47 PM
This moron is supposed to be a brilliant economist. He has become nothing more than a partisan hack. He will say anything to run cover for Obama. His crediblity is all but gone.
sbintn
Murfreesboro, TN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 9:34:48 PM
Found this on Realclearpolitics.com and I think it really explains why both the dems and republicans are in trouble. It also explains why only 25% of us approve of the job congress is doing.
What independents want -http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/06/opinion/06brooks.html?_r=1
apollo13
rochester, mn
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 9:51:48 PM
What if the government were to cut taxes and reduce government programs.
What if government were to cut their spending as well.
What if we had more money to spend as we chose how to spend it, instead of the government spending it for us?
How would That do for our suffering economy??
sbintn
Murfreesboro, TN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 9:57:46 PM
It would get the economy back on track, Apollo. Unfortunately those in Washington DC have no idea how to do what you are suggesting. They only know how to make it bigger.
newameric
a
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/7/2009 at 5:45:22 AM
Unemployment is rising and the dollar is plunging. Just how has stimulus worked?
Oh yah, bankers got trillions and Obama’s specially selected interest groups got rich and the tax-payers are holding the bag.
newameric
a
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/7/2009 at 5:47:41 AM
How about columns by real economists like Peter Schiff? We’ve had enough of Krugman. Lets get some diversity! After all diversity is our strength!
fasthrms
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/7/2009 at 10:33:23 AM
I think the stimulus worked but I would have liked to see more public infrastructure investment. Yes it does cost a lot of money but in the 90s we proved that we can pay off the debt and still have a healthy economy.
Keep in mind what was about to happen in October of 2008. Every financial/insurance institution in the world suddenly stopped lending and were about to collapse. Every asset class but gold was in free fall. The 3 month libor rate was at .029% then shot to an all time high of 4.55%. We were plunged into the most catastrophic economic event in recent history.
Today we no longer talk about a second great depression. Asset values have stabilized and some are rising. The libor is back to more normal rates and consumers are slowly starting to spend again.
The stimulus did fail with respect to unemployment. In the generations before, when unemployment reached a troubling level people were put to work on public infrastructure projects such as the electrical grid and the interstate highway system.
The next time you turn on a light or take a ride on interstate 90, you may want to thank the generations before for the stimulus projects designed for the following generation’s benefit. How will our generation measure up in terms of what we leave for the future generations?
Othelmo__
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/7/2009 at 10:59:29 AM
Paul Krugman is a lying Obama propagandiist. To say the the porkulus “works” when unemployment is at 10.2%(1) is the height of totalitarian arrogance and insensitivity.
Ron_Burgu
ndy
Rochester, MN
Birddog
rochester, mn
Posted on 11/7/2009 at 12:20:04 PM
Ron:
That was probably your most intelligent post in weeks. Great teleprompter work.
Othelmo__
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/7/2009 at 12:36:03 PM
Expect neither intellectual honesty nor depth from the leftist intelligentsia and you will never be disappointed.
Atilla
Rochester, Mn
Posted on 11/8/2009 at 9:11:32 PM
Shoveling more and more money into a bottomless pit.
The economy, housing, government spending and ever-increasing gummint growth...it keeps getting better and better and better.
On Friday Freddie Mac posted a $5 billion loss, and predicted it would need MORE government support amid a “prolonged deterioration” in housing.
http://www.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idUSTRE5A55PR20091107
“Freddie Mac’s survival will continue to depend on support from the government, which forced the company AND Fannie Mae into conservatorship in September 2008.”
“Freddie Mac has taken $51.7 billion since then while Fannie Mae’s draw will rise to $60.9 billion.”
“Freddie Mac’s survival will continue to depend on support from the government...” REALLY????
Bwaahahahahaha Reaaallly?
Naaaaaaa please tell me it’s another one of 0bomba’s April fools jokes.
Helicopte
rBen
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/9/2009 at 4:35:05 PM
Expect to see GDP “growth” AGAIN as a result of the extension of the Home Buyer Tax Credit.
Atilla
Rochester, Mn
Posted on 11/10/2009 at 12:47:35 PM
A friend keeps telling me the Roch public highs use a Krugman text in their Econ class.
Is this true?????
If it is, case in point;
“Let the government run the schools, and it may end up teaching your children values that offend you. Let the government have new powers to fight terrorism, and it may use those extraordinary powers in the pursuit of ordinary crimes. Let the federal government give the states money for highways, and it may eventually use its money to impose its own rules on the states...”
From the opinion piece of yesterday’s Philadelphia Inquirer
“When government slippery slope goes vertical”:
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/opinion/20091108_When_government
_slippery_slope_goes_vertical.html
Atilla
Rochester, Mn
Posted on 11/10/2009 at 1:07:38 PM
Of course if it’s the STATE telling the district to use Krugman’s Econ book it makes perfect sense as to why the state is always bankrupt.
AND that explains why 3/4 of the Minnesota budget is social welfare and education.

But that's also the bad news -- because the same textbook analysis says that the stimulus was far too small given the scale of our economic problems. Unless something changes drastically, we're looking at many years of high unemployment.
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