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BillChris
topher
Olmsted County, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 11:04:51 AM
Walz uses all the voter friendly buzzwords and
this bill, admittedly, stinks less than the others the the Democrats have come up with, but reading from Walz’s own words - there are still several problems with it.
Drivers are only required by state law to carry auto insurance if they decide want to operate vehicles on a public roadway. Otherwise they can drive to their heart’s content on private property and never pay a dime in auto insurance. This bill saddles American’s with the requirement of buying health insurance just for breathing.
Why not make this compromise: If you expect the government option to cover all of your pre-existing conditions than you are required to sign up. If you have no pre-existing conditions or do not expect them to be covered, you should not have to purchase medical insurance.
Additionally, if you are a heavy smoker, drinker, drug user, lead a lifestyle that carries greater risk or have your own gravitational force, you should be expected to pay more for your health care since the law of averages states that you will use more medical care than people that choose healthier lifestyles.
I am happy to see the anti-trust exemption go away, but what about a little deregulation in that one can purchase plans across state lines....this will surely add competition in the market place.
Lastly, no bill should be approved that doesn’t eliminate jury awards in malpractice suits. If people are hurt by incompetence, they should be compensated and 1-2 million isn’t going to suffice for some teenage you just had the wrong leg removed (or something like that), but cutting rewards to 15-20 Million and limiting the law firm’s take to 30% doesn’t seem unreasonable.
mdb325
Kasson, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 11:35:47 AM
Why can we buy car insurance across state lines but not health insurance? “defenders of the status quo” Nice, they propose changes and you fools still call them this. Just because you ignore their proposals doesn’t make them “defenders of the status quo”, it makes you just another politician.
MommaBear
Byron, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 11:55:51 AM
So far 76% of the poeple here are against it. Pay attention Tim.
Atilla
Rochester, Mn
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 12:19:21 PM
“Protect jobs!” LOL..that’s funny considering unemployment is over 10% and will most likely reach 20% and that’s AFTER we were promised unemployment wouldn’t top 8% once the job saving stimu=less was passed.
This bill has NOTHING to do with reform. This is expanding government and socializing medicine.
This is the “change” 0bomba was talking about when he said “I will remake America.”
Nobamanat
ion
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 12:48:50 PM
Do you think Walz can ignore 80% NO vote POLL for this Health Care Reform in a Liberal paper? Maybe he knows what is ‘best for us’ and has to make the decision on what ‘he knows is best’. I thought he was there to represent his district. 80% saying NO seems like a pretty good indication of where his constituants are on this issue.
Here are the numbers to call him and tell him what we think, I got the numbers from his website, walz.house.gov
Washington office 202-225-2472
Mankato Office 507-388-2149
MommaBear
Byron, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 12:53:20 PM
I called yesterday and he is already set to vote in favor of this bill, he always has been. I hope people will not forget next election. That is how these guys stay in office; voters have short memories.
BillChris
topher
Olmsted County, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 1:13:16 PM
I don’t think Walz has adequately represented the interests of all of southern MN. He beat a vulnerable incumbent and then a virtual unknown who only represented the far right. I hope a solid candidate runs next year so we can send Mr. Walz back to school.
chimin
rochester, mn
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 2:25:00 PM
If WQalz listened to his constituents, he would not be in favor of this. The PB survey indicates, already, more than 60% do not support the HC Bill, and this is typical. Also, if this were so great, why aren’t the Fed employees included in this, they do not need to opt in/out.. and this is not fair. Pls do NOT vote for Walz again. I wrote him several times in non support and receive his cookie cutter response.. I don’t think he reads them, nor do I think he read the 1990+ pages of this HC Bill. not rot non-staacor of
JGreg
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 2:34:59 PM
On-line polls such as this one are totally unscientific and very easily manipulated by anyone so inclined. Most sites running on-line polls run a disclaimer explaining that, I do not know why the PB does not. To take on-line polls by themselves as representing any sort of accuracy of feelings on an issue is very foolish, indeed. Btw, most polls run in a scientific, secure manner show more people in favor of this bill, and health care reform in general, than opposed. Don’t let your wishful thinking cloud your ability to recognize reality.
Mrs_C
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 2:39:40 PM
Very true, JGreg!! The P-B poll is easily manipulated.
The AMA and AARP have come out in support of the House Bill.
BillChris
topher
Olmsted County, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 2:43:39 PM
Right and wrong JGreg. Online polls are usually not worth much.
People are not behind Pelosicare though.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/september_2009/health_care_reform
This is most recent poll I found from Gallup (in short they say ‘it depends’):
http://www.gallup.com/poll/123782/In-U.S.-39-Say-View-Healthcare-Depends-Details.aspx
Nobamanat
ion
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 2:44:22 PM
I agree that these polls can be swayed one way or the other, but the national polls and local ones do show that the majority of Americans are not in favor of a government run health care system. I suggest that the government employees from the president on down to every form of government along with all those that are on government assitance to do a test run of their plan for 2 years and if it is so great than they can show us how it is so. Ohh and to not use any outside money so they can prove that it is self sustainable.
irishman
Rochester, Mn
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 2:45:38 PM
the polls are unscientific? easily manipulated? Wait just a darn minute.
The internet spokesman for the local dfl used the 4,000 voters on one of these polls to not only justify his posts but, yes, get this, actually wrote a letter to the editor using said poll numbers and yes, yes, this will crack you up, signed his name to the letter. I know, can you believe it???
Just looking at the poll right now shows how easily the numbers are skewed.
BillChris
topher
Olmsted County, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 2:47:06 PM
Hilarious! You can vote as many times as you like in this poll.
They could’ve at least made us clear cookies to vote multiple times.
MommaBear
Byron, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 3:07:04 PM
That is funny and sad. I could see how some would sit there and do it over and over and over again.
The majority according to Rasmussen are against this plan.
Tim will be putting his reelection hopes on the line with this bill and also with the cap & trade bill and I don’t think he has truly thought it through at all.
singlepar
ent
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 3:14:58 PM
Excellent summary of the House bill:
http://waysandmeans.house.gov/media/pdf/111/hcare/DETAILEDSUMMARY.pdf
I don’t see that they addressed the administration of the program. I’d be interested in hearing where that money is coming from. Bureaucratic cash burning engine accounting for 30 million Americans enrollment, claims administration, and management? Yuck!
FrankWHaw
thorne
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 4:34:20 PM
I think you locol neocons, paleocons, libertarian-cons, and just plain cons ought to show that tone-deaf Walz guy that you mean business by backing someone to beat him next year who really represents your values.
You know—Someone whose life is an open book of self-made triumphs, of passionate-but-reasoned discourse, of (Big) family values, who can articulate the New Republican “Don’t Tread/Tax/Healthcare on ME!” Tea-Party-Patriot Platform.
Minnesota’s 1st District, I (hope they) give you:
GOP Activist O.D. Silva!
Rochester
_Gadfly
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 4:44:11 PM
”The P-B poll is easily manipulated.” Mrs. C., I wouldn’t know. I vote just once, but if you’re suggesting Frankie-4000-votes used data that was “easily manipulated” to argue his point in a recent PB LTE, I would be seriously disappointed in the DFL’s integrity.
Birddog
rochester, mn
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 4:45:35 PM
“Very true, JGreg!! The P-B poll is easily manipulated.”
I agree 100%. Especially after looking at the results of the present survey.
MommaBear
Byron, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 4:49:08 PM
If the democrats keep going down the track they have been on this year, he may have a chance, a number of good people will. The Independents are not going your parties way Frank.
Atilla
Rochester, Mn
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 5:10:04 PM
JGreg is right. The vote’s been ACORNized, just like the ethanol vote yesterday was ACORNized by special interests.
Nobamanat
ion
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 5:22:35 PM
Don’t you think it’s great how Obama has brought the nation together and how transparent the government is now? Seriously, have any of you ever seen the nation this devided? I don’t care what side of the isle you are on the country is going down the wrong road.
PaulKreme
nek
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 5:27:39 PM
Agree. We are more divided now than we were under the previous administration. We have more jobless, as well, though I don’t believe the two are related.
merv
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 5:28:25 PM
Looks like retired folks w/o jobs were running the ‘No’ vote up earlier and crowing about it!
Try voting from the same IP address - they check for that and block it.
I wish they would post the last few digits of IP addresses on P-B posts, so it would be obvious who are posting from multiple profile ID’s and making it look like they are much more mainstream than they are…
Atilla
Rochester, Mn
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 5:47:21 PM
The CNN poll shows 53% OPPOSE 0bama socialized medicine.
So, knowing CNN the numbers are ACTUALLY 70% opposing.
Atilla
Rochester, Mn
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 5:48:47 PM
But then the Roch poll shows 85% favor...LOL.
Acorn’s been busy!
meek-not-
weak
rochester, mn
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 5:53:16 PM
The problem with the left is they’ve sto asking is this good for the country, now all they ask is “well is Obama for it or against it?,whatever Obama says is what we’re for!”.Can we have rabbits George? Sure Lenny, you just look over there and Ol’ George will take care of everything—-ok George——-BOOM!!—-THUD!
merv
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 6:03:09 PM
Metal, 31% on Republicans not doing enough. I’m sure that was before they released their “Health Insurance Company Protection Act” this week. :-)
Othelmo__
Rochester, MN
Othelmo__
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 6:20:17 PM
“but if you’re suggesting Frankie-4000-votes used data that was “easily manipulated” to argue his point in a recent PB LTE, I would be seriously disappointed in the DFL’s integrity.”
2706 votes in favor of the obama/Pelosi death care bill? I see that Frank is still home “sick” with his laptop computer.
Othelmo__
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 6:22:31 PM
“We have more jobless,”
The unemployment rate has jumped to 10.2%. How’s that “change” working out for ya?
Othelmo__
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 6:22:34 PM
“We have more jobless,”
The unemployment rate has jumped to 10.2%. How’s that “change” working out for ya?
Atilla
Rochester, Mn
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 8:16:56 PM
So now if we don’t buy a $15,000 policy we will go to jail.
“Failure to comply with the individual mandate to buy health insurance contained in the Pelosi health care bill (H.R. 3962, as amended) could land people in jail”:
http://biggovernment.com/2009/11/06/committee-confirms-comply-with-pelosi-care-or-go-to-jail/
Hmmm, jail. I know we get free food and shelter in jail, can we get health care in jail too?
Darn, I had planned on paying the fine - thanks to that “guarantee” issue they have going, you effectively have health insurance whether you buy it or not!!!
You can jump right in to whatever plan you like as soon as you get sick, and the gummint insurer will HAVE to pay.
apollo13
rochester, mn
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 8:28:09 PM
Is there any tort reform in this bill?
Othelmo__
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 8:39:15 PM
“Is there any tort reform in this bill?”
No, but there are heavy fines, abusive taxation,rationing, jail time, death panels and abortion.
apollo13
rochester, mn
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 9:15:58 PM
If this bill passes and P-Bo signs it into law, when will it go into effect?
Is the “Health Insurance Exchange” another word for public option?
Why did’nt the PB do a special story on this very important and complex bill, so an average citizen could understand what it means to them?
Is the bill so confusing that no one at the PB understands it?
channelz
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 9:43:21 PM
This bill doesn’t go nearly far enough. I think the entire for-profit health insurance industry needs to be dismantled. There is something terribly wrong when some humans get rich solely by denying health care coverage to other humans. The Sisters of Saint Francis didn’t have the profit motive in mind when they got the first hospital built here in Rochester—rather they were responding unselfishly to real human need.
Othelmo__
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 11:33:41 PM
The Democrat Party are no Sister of St. Francis. I know a Franciscan Sister and she would never fine and throw anyone in jail who refused her charity.
Foreveryo
ung
Darfur, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 11:37:48 PM
WaPo spot on analysis
The Congressional Budget Office released its initial analysis of the health-care reform plan that Republican Minority Leader John Boehner offered as a substitute to the Democratic legislation. CBO begins with the baseline estimate that 17 percent of legal, non-elderly residents won’t have health-care insurance in 2010. In 2019, after 10 years of the Republican plan, CBO estimates that …17 percent of legal, non-elderly residents won’t have health-care insurance. The Republican alternative will have helped 3 million people secure coverage, which is barely keeping up with population growth. Compare that to the Democratic bill, which covers 36 million more people and cuts the uninsured population to 4 percent.
But maybe, you say, the Republican bill does a really good job cutting costs. According to CBO, the GOP’s alternative will shave $68 billion off the deficit in the next 10 years. The Democrats, CBO says, will slice $104 billion off the deficit.
The Democratic bill, in other words, covers 12 times as many people and saves $36 billion more than the Republican plan. And amazingly, the Democratic bill has already been through three committees and a merger process. It’s already been shown to interest groups and advocacy organizations and industry stakeholders. It’s already made its compromises with reality. It’s already been through the legislative sausage grinder. And yet it saves more money and covers more people than the blank-slate alternative proposed by John Boehner and the House Republicans. The Democrats, constrained by reality, produced a far better plan than Boehner, who was constrained solely by his political imagination and legislative skill.
This is a major embarrassment for the Republicans
Othelmo__
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 11:41:31 PM
Which bill strips Americans of their liberties and which does not? Does the CBO score that, too?
Mrs_C
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/7/2009 at 1:03:50 AM
Don’t leave your homes! The sky is falling.
Othelmo__
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/7/2009 at 1:56:11 AM
Does the “C” stand for “Chicken Little,” then?
Othelmo__
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/7/2009 at 2:04:28 AM
Mrs_C, which bill
would fine and jail Americans who choose freedom over your totalitarian, compulsory “compassion?”
rejects tort reform?
promotes abortion?
institutes death panels?
limits choices?
would vanquish 1/6-1/7 of the American economy?
rations and mediocritizes the best health care system in the world bar none?
is meant to enslave the American people to one Democrat Party of Shame, Corruption and Totalitarianism?
R_Schauer
lakeville, mn
Posted on 11/7/2009 at 4:48:55 AM
I was in Australia and in need of medical care there and was totally amazed they covered even me. I received great care and didn’t pay a penny for it.
The death panels provision of this bill is NOT REALITY...please pay attention TO FACTS!
I look at it like this: we have unlimited funds to build and maintain military bases all over the world (imagine having a french, japanese or german military base in Albert Lea) we blow people up with drones yet can’t provide health care for our people? Come on! What are we defending with all this military...the crooks on Wall Street who pay no taxes?
We have good health care here but it is also the most expensive in the world. No one spends more than us on it yet not everyone is covered.
We quickly becoming a third world nation and some haven’t figured that out yet.
ProAmeric
an
Byron, MN
Posted on 11/7/2009 at 5:13:53 AM
CNN article on November 6th says Public Wants Congress to Keep Working on Health Care!
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/11/06/cnn-poll-public-wants-congress-to-keep-working-on-health-care/
ProAmeric
an
Byron, MN
Posted on 11/7/2009 at 5:19:35 AM
National polls show that the health care bill is not wanted. Our community must be different based on the PB Poll.
Othelmo__
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/7/2009 at 8:21:02 AM
“I received great care and didn’t pay a penny for it.”
Someone did.
“The death panels provision of this bill is NOT REALITY...please pay attention TO FACTS!”
Death panels are back in. Stop lying.
“Our community must be different based on the PB Poll.”
FrankHawthorne must still be “sick” in bed with his laptop.
Atilla
Rochester, Mn
Posted on 11/7/2009 at 8:37:53 AM
Tell the whole truth.
AARP is an arm of the democrat party.
The AMA was paid off and does NOT speak for the majority of physicians.
Only 1 in 7 of all physicians are AMA members.
And everybody knows 0bomba’s socialized medicine won’t cut the deficit. It will increase the deficit.
It’s the usual Washington FRAUD. Their trick is to compare 7 years of spending with 10 years of revenue. Front load the taxes. Back load the spending. Presto, a fraudulently balanced ledger sheet!!!
0bomba also shovels a bunch of medicaid costs off to the states.
Counts waste everybody knows they will NEVER ACTUALLY CUT.
But then the socialized plan actually does cut medicare, once called a sacred promise by Uncle Sam.....LOL.
Atilla
Rochester, Mn
Posted on 11/7/2009 at 8:40:40 AM
Oh...there is one real FACT in 0bomba’s socialized medicine, NO REFORM what so ever bill.
The taxes!
The taxes are real; on an economy with over 10% jobless.
Including 0boma’s BIG broken promise, no tax hikes on the middle class.
BillChris
topher
Olmsted County, MN
Posted on 11/7/2009 at 8:50:36 AM
Do all Minnesota legal residents have access to affordable health insurance? Yes MinnesotaCare
So there should be no need for us to beg for a nationwide program when our state could get off their backsides, allow the purchase of insurance across state lines, push the feds to remove anti-trust laws and it shouldn’t cost a dime more to MN residents than it does now.
FrankWHaw
thorne
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/7/2009 at 8:52:28 AM
I know the ODS one “Doesn’t Care!” but fyi I’m better & will be back in the Library saddle today (covering lunches).
So, if any of you Tea Party `er “Patriots” wish to come on down, I can help you start some real [Non Fox “News“] research into the Facts re healthcare in America.
Yes, it probably will require you to log-Off your home computers; but you never know what you might learn; plus it’s supposed to be a super nice day to get out in & experience Sunlight.
To save you some time, I already checked-out that (Still) bogus “Death Panels” GOP story, and it remains nothing more than a shock-jock media Lie. [I used to say “distortion;” but now use the “L” word They understand.]
It must pain you that mainstream book publishers, Real journalists, and responsible policy makers won’t verify it, or other scare tactics re Health Reform; but too much is at stake—for ALL Americans-- to endorse such silliness.
As a good, objective analysis of our current healthcare system vs. that of other nations we typically compare ourselves to, I’d also recommend to anyone T.R. Reid’s best-selling “The Healing of America: A Global Quest for Better, Cheaper, and Fairer Health Care.”
Atilla
Rochester, Mn
Posted on 11/7/2009 at 9:01:46 AM
And raise your hand if you believe 0bomba and his democrat congress are smart enough to do that.......
merv
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/7/2009 at 9:03:53 AM
Yes, Othelmo, stick with that Death Panels thing. Ride that to the very end.
First the Republicans said that there was nothing at all wrong with healthcare in America. Then in June, they released a 1 or 2 page plan of theirs. Now, last week, they issue another plan.
Sounds like they know theyh are on the wrong side of this debate, and are scrambling.
Atilla
Rochester, Mn
Posted on 11/7/2009 at 9:04:31 AM
I’d really like to see the college records or ANY records for that matter of the Kenyan “let me give a shout out” community organizer in chief.
Atilla
Rochester, Mn
Posted on 11/7/2009 at 9:14:32 AM
What a bunch of spineless so and so’s. They’re voting today for the socialized bill.
Democrats love sneakily pass bills late Friday nights and weekends.
In the words of Brad DeLong, why, oh why, can’t we have a better press corps?
Othelmo__
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/7/2009 at 11:08:51 AM
The Democrat Party of Sham Reforms and Death Panels is going to have a hard time passing the death care bill now that it has seen the light of day. Blue dog cowards are scared to death, as well they should be.
Atilla
Rochester, Mn
Posted on 11/7/2009 at 11:16:52 AM
That NY 23 race where Owens(D) won out Hoffman(R) by only 3.000 votes (thanks to Scozzafava); well, prior to the election he tells the constituents he will NOT vote for the socialized government expanding 0bama plan.
Now Owens says HAHA. HAHA
HAHA.
I lied.
I’m voting for it!
Ron_Burgu
ndy
Rochester, MN
Othelmo__
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/7/2009 at 12:41:11 PM
Owens reminds me of our own R.T. Rybak who told reporters on election night that a decision on running for governor of Minnesota was “weeks or months away.” He filed paperwork with the state to run for governor TWO DAYS later.
Othelmo__
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/7/2009 at 12:45:52 PM
Owens, Ryback, Pelosi, Walz, Pelosi, Welti, Obama. Liars all. Same label: Democrat.
channelz
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/7/2009 at 2:33:38 PM
“The Democrat Party are no Sister of St. Francis. I know a Franciscan Sister and she would never fine and throw anyone in jail who refused her charity.”
I find myself in strong agreement with that statement. I don’t think Jesus, when he healed the sick, would have first checked to see that they were in compliance with all the terms of a government-mandated health care program nor with their insurance policy’s fine print. Obtaining optimal health care coverage is getting so complex it’s going to be almost like flying an F117 fighter, if you’ll allow me to make that analogy. It absolutely can’t be flown without an advanced avionics system that prevents the pilot from otherwise crashing and burning. Such systems are designed solely to help the pilot, not to trip him or her up by putting up unnecessary workload.
Atilla
Rochester, Mn
Posted on 11/7/2009 at 4:20:32 PM
It’s easy to see why the Wall Street Journal is now known as the premier news organization AND why their subscription rates are skyrocketing.
In today’s WSJ:
“What the Pelosi Health-Care Bill Really Says.”
The WSJ really breaks it down for you.
Read the whole thing.
It. Is. Unbelievable.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870479560
4574519671055918380.html
Othelmo__
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/8/2009 at 12:36:31 AM
Tim Walz is a sellout who must be voted out of office at the earliest opportunity.
cookie
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/8/2009 at 10:20:55 AM
Attilla-Thanks for the WSJ link. After reading this, I feel ill. It’s apalling to think they might get away with this. Any Representative who votes for this needs to get voted out. Shameful.
csigiurds
on
Byron, MN
Posted on 11/8/2009 at 3:25:43 PM
Looks like this site is used mostly to vent tired sound bites instead of invite intelligent/civil discussion. Having read them all I doubt anyone changes anyone else’s opinion this way. It would be nice, however, if people checked their “facts” with independent sources like Factcheck.org
As retired physician with excellent health care coverage I want to thank Mr. Walz for voting for this bill.
It certainly is not perfect but it is necessary to get the process of improving access to health care moving forward. Even in a community with the wonderful health care that most of us enjoy here in Olmstead County, I know and hear of local people who cannot afford their health insurance, despite working 2 jobs, young people who do not carry insurance because they cannot afford it and think they are invincible, and fellow rochesterians who go bankrupt because of medical emergencies even though they thought they had coverage. This is a step in the right direction. Thank you Rep. Walz.
ElGuapo
GoingGalt, MN
Posted on 11/9/2009 at 11:29:29 AM
“Privately-owned insurance companies, member-owned cooperatives, and a government-backed public option will compete for business in the Exchange.“—T.Walz
No, Tim. They won’t. A privately owned insurance company who I used to buy my employees health insurance through has made it painfully clear that they will not be part of any sort of “Exchange”. They will stop issuing new policies, let the current ones expire and look into other avenues of insurance.
I doubt my current insurance provider will be so eager to take it in the shorts, too.
Walz for the win!
jamalee
plainview, mn
merv
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/9/2009 at 12:28:09 PM
ElGuapo, Congressman Joe Wilson has 2 words and an exclamation point for you.
Atilla
Rochester, Mn
Posted on 11/9/2009 at 12:35:07 PM
Why companies WILL drop insurance for the freebie gummint “option”:
http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2009/11/why-obamacare-wont-work-it-will-be.html
“Martin Feldstein explains a fatal flaw of Obamacare in the Washington Post: It will be rational for individuals and companies to drop their current health insurance, pay the penalties, and wait to purchase insurance when they get sick.”
Othelmo__
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/9/2009 at 7:40:00 PM
I stopped by Tim Walz’s congress office during lunch and left him the following message:
“The men and women of the American military risk their lives everyday to defend many of the freedoms the health insurance reform bill you voted for in the dead of night last Saturday will eliminate. Your bipartisan rhetoric rings hollow when your voting record is consistently liberal.”
I also asked him not to send me one of his long-winded robo letters as a reply to a very specific comment. I am not interested in his lies and rationalizations.
merv
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/9/2009 at 8:16:48 PM
“The men and women of the American military risk their lives everyday to defend many of the freedoms the health insurance reform bill you voted for in the dead of night last Saturday will eliminate.”
Seriously? Seriously?? DQ! And the D doesn’t stand for ‘Dairy’!
between_t
he_lines
Rochester, Mn
Posted on 11/9/2009 at 8:42:09 PM
My prediction,
If this ungodly democratic plan becomes law, millions of people will lose their employee health benefits. The companies will quickly realize its cheaper to pay the penalty instead of offering health insurance. It will happen so fast that you will get whiplash!!
rochfan
rochester, mn
Posted on 11/9/2009 at 10:20:23 PM
Mr. retired physician with the “excellent health care” from Byron thanking Congressman Walz
for his yes vote: you have No IDEA what will happen to your “excellent health care”, the providers of your “excellent health care”, your Medicare premiums, your taxes or even all the newly eligible recipients because this was RUSHED through for all the wrong reasons. Two things : Congress retains their special and excellent health care coverage and two, an md from Byron should know Olmsted is the way you spell our county.
Othelmo__
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/9/2009 at 10:40:12 PM
The socialist intelligentsia want “equality” for everyone else but themselves.
Othelmo__
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/9/2009 at 10:40:19 PM
The socialist intelligentsia want “equality” for everyone else but themselves.
