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Lantern
rochester, mn
Posted on 11/4/2009 at 12:50:24 PM
Here’s an idea. Pay as you go. Let taxes pay for basic education. All extracurricular activities should be funded by those involved plus any and all donations. If there’s not enough interest to fund the activity then it is put to rest. This should apply across the board to both athletic and non-athletic activities. Perhaps if the performances are good enough, the public will be willing to pay more to view them.
Paperboy
Rochester, MN
jtej9598
b-town, MN
Posted on 11/4/2009 at 4:55:56 PM
Lantern ... how do you propose PLANNING for athletics, extra-curricular activities from year to year? Yes we’ll schedule out Football/Volleyball/Speech/Math competition with you Zumbrota/Cannon Falls, etc., but if the parents don’t come up with enough money, we’ll have to cancel. Not a wise move ... and how many children would be disappointed when they gear up for their sport or other activity and then have to be told NO.
They plan calendars for all of these things 2-3-4 years out .... hmmmmm, next time think it through.
This is your and paperboys answer? says a lot about you.
schmittts
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/4/2009 at 6:06:54 PM
Extra-curricular activities in Rochester and elsewhere have fees.
lifer
Byron, MN
Posted on 11/4/2009 at 9:30:18 PM
jtej9598-Don’t waste your breath, some just won’t learn.
anonymous
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/4/2009 at 9:36:55 PM
Byron = Austin, that should hurt a little!
and:
Z-M is a district Byron must look up to, so strange, I wouldn’t have expected that. But I guess those people just work harder, and have more money. Or they’re not cheap, selfish, and small minded.
Either way, school districts in the area that worried about losing kids to Byron, or being second to Byron, won’t have as much to worry about.
Anyone else think if paperboy commented less and worked more, he/she could have afforded the levy?
jtej9598
b-town, MN
Posted on 11/5/2009 at 4:10:34 PM
anonymous ... ha ha ha ha ha ! I love your last point!
Atilla
Rochester, Mn
Posted on 11/5/2009 at 4:21:43 PM
Ultimately, it’s the union negotiations which determine the bottom line.
MommaBear
Byron, MN
Posted on 11/5/2009 at 4:31:53 PM
anonymous, Who would then be there to help his kids with all the homework? Plus, we just payed our taxes and Byron schools are already getting a good chunk of change.
My daughter has been incolved with sports in Byron but they have not done one fund rasier or sonations from businesses for any of the sports she has been incolved with. Maybe the kids, parents and coaches need to get creative and start looking at some of other ways at raising funds for their activities.
jtej9598
b-town, MN
Posted on 11/5/2009 at 4:40:33 PM
Schmitts: Byron families do pay fees for extracurricular also. Lantern was suggesting a “wait & see” scenario for team sports. Not very practical.
Momma Bear ... now you want to hit up the businesses for donations. From what I hear they get hit up for everything already, so I don’t think that would be practical either. Fund raisers ... great idea ... I can get on board with that, but again, you are hitting up the community for money somehow, someway and it is still a wait and see on whether there would be enough money!
On a Positive note: HOW ABOUT THOSE BYRON GIRLS & THEIR VB WIN! Congrats to Coach Krier and the Team. It was electrifying to watch you play so incredibly well. And to the Stewartville team/fans/coaches ... You all showed Wonderful Class last night! Thank You!
MommaBear
Byron, MN
Posted on 11/5/2009 at 4:41:54 PM
fundraisers or donations and involved not incolved
anonymous
Rochester, MN
Posted on 11/5/2009 at 5:14:23 PM
MommaBear isn’t actually one word, but two. It’s improper to capitalize in the middle of a word.
Your welcome. That chunk of change is the 5th least in all of Minnesota, wow you’re small.
MommaBear
Byron, MN
Posted on 11/5/2009 at 5:56:32 PM
Not one word… really.... wow.... whodathunkit? anonymous… Do you have kids that go to Byron, Do you pay Byron taxes? Otherwise I am not seeing your concern.
Byron made big mistakes building that new school thinking that they were going to be able to fund it under false hopes and dreams. We are now a prime example of why some districts shouldn’t trust what there boards and administrators are telling them when they think a new school will bring in more kids and money.
Hopefully everyone will pull together and work together in our community during these tough times. Parents and community members will need to help out however they can and people in certain school positions need to look at needs verses wants.
MommaBear
Byron, MN
Posted on 11/5/2009 at 8:47:21 PM
And jtej9598 - I believe donations to a school are tax deductable so that may give somes added interest to some business owners and individuals, plus it gets the kids more involved. I have seen schools and organizations ask for people to donate their cars that they no longer need, there have been schools that have set up a wish list website of things they would like to have or replace. You can’t say it ain’t going to fly without first trying to give it some wings.
bench rid
er
byron, mn
Posted on 11/5/2009 at 10:00:15 PM
MommaBear...the new high school was NOT a mistake. The district needed a new building and building the high school and converting the old HS building to a middle school was by far the best financial option at that time. It took two votes to pass that as the first one had all the bells and whistles that would have duplicated a lot of facilities, so the board pared it down to a more reasonable referendum which passed by a fairly wide margin, if memory serves me correct. The funding issues are due to the cutting of education funds in St. Paul by our legislators. BTW, cutting education funds is about all they have really accomplished lately. The building IS NOT THE PROBLEM.
Also, donating money directly to the school is against the law. I can’t just walk in to the office and lay down a $1,000 bill and say use it where you see fit. Certain school groups can, and many do, do fundraisers to supplement the activity fees and the lack of money from the district/state.
The district will get by on the current monies that they will receive, but over the next year or so some things will get put on the chopping block and we may very well get another referendum to consider and that one will be an either increase the operating levy or the cuts will go into effect. The voters will then have to decide what they want to do at that point.
So if you have any anger about repeatedly having to vote for bigger operating levies, please be sure to direct some, if not most of it towards your elected representatives. Because they don’t ask to make changes to education funding, they just do it and force local school districts to deal with the consequences.
ElGuapo
GoingGalt, MN
Posted on 11/5/2009 at 10:32:41 PM
Well spoken, as by a booty kissing sycophant could ever say. {MwaH!}
No money comes from St. Paul. It comes from the taxpayer. The State generates ZERO income. It takes from those who earn and then the State redistributes it.
MommaBear
Byron, MN
Posted on 11/5/2009 at 10:33:28 PM
I never said it was the problem bench rider… it was the formula they used to get voters to vote for a new school. They thought it would bring people to Byron and new students to help with the operating cost but growth hasn’t been happening in Byron the way they all spelled it out. The development East of town has been dead for a few years now, Somerby is not what they were projecting and our taxes are already too high.
You are obviously thick headed to believe that you cannot donate money to a school when everyone does it twice a year. Plus, Phil Fuchs donated a sprayer. What can you give?
jtej9598
b-town, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 12:20:26 AM
MommaBear ... please don’t think I’m against raising funds for programs, I am not. However, you can not rely on fundraisers to do everything the school needs. How many magazines, cookie dough buckets, pizzas and (omg) wrapping paper do we need?!?
We need to come together as a community and honestly and fairly look at the facts to make wise decisions for our future. The vote is over and no I’m not happy with it.
We cannot allow the likes of Mr. Fuchs to decide our future when clearly his agenda is not about what’s best for the school, but just his personal agenda against the super & some school board members. Many of us GIVE everyday, not only our cash but our time to the school to make it better. I just hope the district can pull together because we definitely haven’t taught our kids anything by the nonsense that has been going on the last week or so.
MommaBear
Byron, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 9:29:57 AM
There are more things than magazines, cookie dough and wrapping paper that you can do raise money. Look outside the box and get creative. I myself, and I believe the majority of parents with students in Byron instill in their kids the importance of their education and I think that is the main reason these kids have done so well on their tests, both my daugther’s work ethic are not going to change and I don’t think the school getting some of their spending under control will hurt them academically and I believe that the students in these extra activities need to look for other ways of funding then the taxpayer.
My kids have learned a lot from this nonsense and from this recession. My oldest daughter has been basically verbally attacked by other students for saying that she would have voted no and for thinking the way she does and the really sad thing is she had to explain to a sophmore what a volunteer does to which his response was ‘Well I would still get payed for it.’ It makes me wonder what is missing in Byron, There are a huge number of smart kids that think it should all just be handed to them and that is not todays reality, if they want th extras put some work into finding ways to fund it. This recession has hit our family hard and numbers of others. We are surviving with less and I believe they can figure out how to do that too.
jtej9598
b-town, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 10:49:24 AM
You are a wise MommaBear and I appreciate that ability to have a good debate with you. While we disagree on the vote ... I think it is refreshing to see a positive side of the “no” voters. Thank you for that. I believe your daughters will be fine adults. I am sorry to hear that they have had to endure negative comments from other students. That is a product of parenting, isn’t it. It’s a good reminder to me to have discussions with my own kids and make sure they see the adult way to handle defeat. I have appreciated your responses. Thank you!
MommaBear
Byron, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 11:19:40 AM
Thank You also jtej9598. It is a good debate and it is an emotional thing when it is going to effect your kids. You are a good parent, it is easy to see you care a great deal. I hope that more people and students will step up, put the differences aside and look at different ways they can help, be involved and get through the tough times. I called in a few ideas that I have and believe can help and I hope others will do the same. It is not easy being a parent these days and I think everyone wants to see the students continue to do well and succeed, it may take more effort to get those results from a limited budget, but I don’t believe it is impossible.
paying2mu
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Byron, MN
Posted on 11/7/2009 at 7:29:17 PM
They didnt’ tell you they got $669,307 from the recovery act. Almost all the schools got some federal money.
OnlyTheTr
uth
MN, MN
Posted on 11/7/2009 at 7:39:14 PM
I am surprised that Lantern suggested “pay your own way”.
Lantern loves us taxpayers footing the bill on trying to control a non-existent human-induced climate change catastrophe.
As for all the Libs out there, may I suggest that your beloved Europeans that you constantly look up to for health care reform and fighting climate change...they don’t have school sports.
They have CLUBS that parents have to anty-up with big bucks (Euros).
So, it looks like some people here want their cake and eat it too.
schmidtem
ployee
Byron, MN
Posted on 11/9/2009 at 10:15:28 PM
el guapo...you are truly obtuse!
why don’t you people take aim at the city of byron? don’t you think the school was built on the hopes of Somerby? i put more blame on the city than i do the school board. if Somerby would have filled the homes as they said they would then the extra property taxes would have sure made a big impact.
schmidtem
ployee
Byron, MN
Posted on 11/9/2009 at 10:16:24 PM
oh...you can blame my employer as well. taylor-schmidt doesn’t pay taxes.

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