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on_harms
Oronoco, MN
Posted on 11/2/2009 at 12:01:30 PM
Some experts must know. If you visit parts of Europe and are there for a specified time you will be rejected from giving blood here in the USA.
JMS
Smalltown, MN
Posted on 11/3/2009 at 12:34:17 PM
Another anti-hunter spouting off showing us absolutely ZERO sources on where she is getting her opinion!!!! Go figure.
In all the research I’ve done on CWD, I don’t think I’ve EVER read where the “Experts” were guaranteeing that it cannot be spread to humans. What they DO say is that there is NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE!!! A source that I visit often (www.cwd-info.org) because it is updated with current news says this: “There is currently no scientific evidence that CWD has or can spread to humans, either through contact with infected animals or by eating meat of infected animals. The Center of Disease Control has thoroughly investigated any connection between CWD and the human forms of TSEs and stated “the risk of infection with the CWD agent among hunters is extremely small, if it exists at all” and “it is extremely unlikely that CWD would be a food borne hazard.”
However, public health officials advise caution and recommend that human exposure to the CWD infectious agent be avoided as they continue to evaluate any potential health risk. Hunters are encouraged not to consume meat from animals known to be infected with CWD. In addition, hunters should take certain precautions when field dressing and processing deer or elk taken in areas where CWD is found.”
Oh and the “MAD COW” thing....2 totally different diseases!!!!
Lantern
rochester, mn
Posted on 11/4/2009 at 2:03:11 PM
Everything is possible but fewer things are probable. Eat, drink, and be merry for tomorrow you shall… well you know the rest. Besides, how much do we really know about our food sources? What is good or bad today may be the reverse in 5 or 10 years.
PeaceLady
Fountain, MN
Posted on 11/5/2009 at 1:58:06 PM
The assurances sound so much like the UK’s insistence that the cattle meat was safe… that’s when I first began to study the subject.. including the tragic personal posts from UK victims of CJD and nvCJD. At least one Nobel Prize in Medicine, Carleton Gajdusek, spent his life studying the infective agent that was wiping out the Fore tribe in New Guinea. “Kuru, it’s all kuru,” he concluded after repeated studies on primates and other animals. The government banned cannibalism; there were no new cases since. The tribe is no longer in danger… Two chief means of transmission: injection and ingestion. Try researching TSE’s...and don’t be fooled by a change in labels… or half truths and statements like “It has never been found ...” Never found if you don’t look for it....
PeaceLady
Fountain, MN
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 3:34:58 PM
JMS, Smalltown....
I’m trying to help… help you and others who might become infected with the PRIONS (coined word)of CWD by eating the meat and handling an infected animal. The Pine Island elk have been exterminated and disposed of… Why wasn’t the meat sold to the public if it is safe to eat?
This morning I ran off a pink flyer… one side this letter, the other side a 1998 article entitled “Doctors inject fetal pig cells into brain of epileptic man” It includes some relevant info… As of 1997, the Food and Drug Administration no longer bans animal-to-human transplants...some brain diseases using pig stem cells in experiments are: Parkinson’s, Huntington’s epilepsy.. Scrapie is the label given the TRANSMISSIBLE spongiform encephalopathy when it appears in pigs (and sheep) In lab experiments, it took 8 years for the injected pigs to develop the symptoms of scrapie. Primates in some studies took 2 years to develop the symptoms of “kuru.” CWD can be incubating in the deer or elk long before the symptoms show… years when the animal appears to be healthy, but, if infected, can transmit the disease...to you, for instance, who could incubate it for years before showing symptoms,
Why take a chance? Why believe the “experts” who are being paid to write slanted articles to sports magazines? It’s a matter of life and death (of the brain) for the creature who eats (ingests)infective tissue or has it injected into its system. There is NO CURE… the brain cannot function with holes and tangles in it. There is only PREVENTION
irishman
Rochester, Mn
Posted on 11/6/2009 at 3:44:16 PM
...“Doctors inject fetal pig cells into brain of epileptic man”...
So was born the term “pig headed”.
JMS
Smalltown, MN
Posted on 11/7/2009 at 7:08:45 PM
But what you FAILED to tell us all is that the Mad Cow Disease and Scrapie is transmitted through EATING brain or spinal tissue or coming into contact with those tissues to get into the blood stream. I don’t eat brain or spinal tissue and I don’t grind either of those 2 things into my venison.
Besides, like I said. Mad Cow and Srapie are VERY different from CWD anyway.
I even got to discuss this with a member of the DNR today when I registered the deer we shot today and then I cut it up and will be enjoying fresh tenderloin tomorrow!!!
OnlyTheTr
uth
MN, MN
Posted on 11/7/2009 at 7:18:02 PM
Who cares if CWD can get into deer?
Deer are like jihad suicide bombers along the highways.
They should be thinned to a point that we can call them an endangered species.
PeaceLady
Fountain, MN
Posted on 11/9/2009 at 7:11:34 PM
JMS-Apparently you did not have your deer tested...I do hope that the animal was not incubating CWD. If so, avoiding brain and spinal tissue still leaves the rest of the animal…
In your posts you mention “research” and that “Mad Cow and scrapies being very different from CWD”.. (have you ever seen the spongiform slides of the various TSE’s?)
Let me estabish my “credentials” at this point...not to put you down, but for me to put on my “teacher hat.”
I have an undergraduate minor in biology. I’m certified to teach it in any 7-12 public school in MN…
“Research” to me means material such as that from Med-America Research (New York) 2004...7 pages of scientific findings plus 2 pages of scholarly references.
Stanley Prusiner coined the word “PRION” for proteins that were infectious...a theory that has been debated since. In 1982 he had announced that the real culprit behind such diseases as scrapie in sheep, kuru in cannibals, Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD) in humans, and chronic wasting disease in deer and elk was either a virus, not yet isolated, or some rogue infectious protein-only “prion”, which unlike anything yet known could multiply, and infect, without genes.
Later in the article is the statement: “Both CJD and scrapie can be transmitted without prions.”
The entire paper makes a strong case for TSE’s being caused by a slow virus or bacteria that is “filterable” and remains infective despite the usual attempts to kill it. So, a source that says “No scientific evidence has been found...” is just hoping you don’t ask “Who’s looking?” And “Where?”
Dilbert (comic strip)nailed it nicely, I thought. First:PANDEMIC PLANNING...“In the worst-case scenario, the only survivors would be cockroaches and Alice.” Second: POW! POW! POW!as Alice asserts her power by punching the air with her right hand. Third: Alice says“Airborne virus. it’s safe now. I broke its protein coat.”
JMS
Smalltown, MN
Posted on 11/10/2009 at 5:47:09 PM
The sources are appreciated. You can’t write a letter to the editor like that and leave out sources.
I didn’t have the deer test ONLY because the deer is going to be mounted and to check for CWD they have to slice the throat of the deer which would wreck the mount.
I appreciate your extensive knowledge but as a big lover of hunting and venison I am going to continue to eat it until the deer start testing positive for it.
